Harold Grey GREIG

Male 1904 - 1990  (85 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Harold Grey GREIG was born on 15 Jul 1904 in Montreal, Quebec (son of James Rodger GREIG and Sarah Hall GREY); died on 14 Jan 1990 in Sarasota, Florida, USA.

    Harold married Ethel Hey CONWAY on 27 Jun 1936 in St David's Church, Radnor, Pennsylvania. Ethel was born in 1909; died in in Sarasota, Florida, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Ethel Conway GREIG

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  James Rodger GREIG was born on 21 May 1870 in Montreal (son of William GREIG and Elizabeth McGowan RODGER); died in Jan 1941 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA; was buried on 31 Jan 1941 in Arlington, Delaware County, Pennsylvania, USA.

    Notes:

    Resided in Cardinal, Ontario when he was married. Returned to Montreal in April 1898.

    His Marriage Certificate, abstracted by Janet Gerla April 24, 2018 in an email to John Cowan, says James was a bookkeeper when he was married. Witnesses to marriage in Carleton Place were William Greig (his father) and Alex R Greig (his brother). Both JAmes and Sarah are listed as Presbyterian. Married by Rev A A Scott.

    Janet Gerla reports (April 11 2018 email to John Cowan) that he "lived in Philadelphia in the twenties and thirties and owned an antiques/resale shop there. He had red hair."

    Living in Philadelphia in 1922 (See William Greig Obit in Library/William Greig/Item 7)

    See his grandson's recollections of him during The Depression in Library/William Greig/Item 6

    Died at work (241 S 13th St) at 10AM, while living at 7006 Sellers Ave, Bywood, Upper Darby - an inner suburb of Philadelphia 6.6 miles from his work location (See Library/William Greig/Item 8). Google Street view shows (in 2018) a house that was probably standing in 1941 - detached home in what looks to be a quiet, tree lined area.

    Worked up to the time of his death after 32 years as an antique dealer (Library/William Greig/Item 8). This suggests that he was in Philadelphia as early as 1909, and might have been the reason his younger brother Wickliffe worked and lived in Philadelphia 1911-13.

    James married Sarah Hall GREY on 24 Jun 1896 in Carleton Place, Ontario. Sarah (daughter of William B GREY and Jane) was born about 1870 in Carleton Place, Ontario. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Sarah Hall GREY was born about 1870 in Carleton Place, Ontario (daughter of William B GREY and Jane).

    Notes:

    Living in Carleton Place when married

    Children:
    1. James William GREIG was born on 9 Oct 1897 in Cardinal, Ontario; died on 28 May 1981 in Dunedin, Florida, USA.
    2. 1. Harold Grey GREIG was born on 15 Jul 1904 in Montreal, Quebec; died on 14 Jan 1990 in Sarasota, Florida, USA.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  William GREIG was born on 6 Jun 1837 in Bridgeton, Glasgow (son of John Graham GREIG and Janet MORRISON); died on 13 Sep 1922 in South Bristol, Maine, USA; was buried in 1922 in Woodlawn Cemetery, Woodlawn County, Baltimore, Maryland, USA.

    Notes:

    "A Westmount Pioneer" (see Obit in Library/William Greig/Item 7)

    Lived in Bridgeton Glasgow until 1859 when he went to Australia.

    Returned to Glasgow in 1861 to marry Oct 1 1861 and land in Montreal Nov 1, 1861.

    Served four years in the Montreal Garrison Artillery Volunteer Brigade at the time of the Trent Affair (a row between USA and Britain during the American Civil War - no actual battles).

    Excerpts about him from the Obit:
    "- Mr & Mrs Greig became considerable factors in the development of Cote St Antoine into the Westmount of today.
    - A man of vision and his work for many years will not soon be forgotten.
    - Connected with the large foundry business of Warden King for nearly half a century.
    - A sturdy Presbyterian. An early member of Melville Church, Cote St Antoine. An elder and clerk of the session for many years.
    - A member of the masonic order.
    - Typical Scottish Canadian. Upright in all his dealings, alert and vigorous, strong in opinion and of wide reading, he was a type of those of earlier days who have made for us the Canada of today."

    Due to ill health in 1910 moved to Baltimore for its more mild climate. Lived at 2000 Madison Ave, at the intersection with Presstman St (in 2018 Google Street View shows this address as the end unit of a 3 unit 3 storey brick townhouse block. Probably the original building, though maybe new in 1910).

    William Cowan found (March 19, 2020):
    "In the US Federal Census of 1920, three households are shown within 2000 Madison Avenue:
    • The Silberman family of 9 with Tonchum Silberman shown as head of house
    • The Greig family of 3
    • The Meyer family of 2
    • Someone has boarder named Charles Steen, carpenter

    William, Elizabeth and their daughter Margaret are shown as aliens with Margaret immigrating in 1907 and her parents in 1910. It states that Margaret is 42 and William and Elizabeth are 82 (John notes that William was 2 years older than Elizabeth). Margaret is listed as a music teacher and for employment as “Own Account” as opposed to employee. Presumably she gave private music lessons, perhaps to kids after school.The Greigs are shown as renters.

    Other interesting things about 2000 Madison Avenue that can be learned from the 1920 census. Tonchum Silberman (age 55) is stated as owner – presumably of their third of 2000 Madison Avenue. It states that he was born in Russia with Yiddish as his mother tongue. His wife was born in New York of Russian parents. Tonchum’s mother lives with them and is shown as 82 years of age. It says the mother is an alien having immigrated in 1890. She appears to only speak Yiddish. Tonchum is shown as a manufacturer in the dry goods business and as an employer. Their 6 children range in age from 8 years old to 27. The three sons are all shown as being in the dry goods manufacturing business, the 27 and 20 year olds shown as “employer” and the 18 year old as a wage earner. Perhaps Tonchum was intent on passing his dry goods business to his sons."

    His son Wickliffe's Marriage License (Library/Wickliffe Greig/Item 3a) lists William's 'rank or profession' in 1911 as "Gentleman." Maybe that means retired. There is no evidence he attended the wedding in Toronto, though he may have.

    Died in South Bristol where he was spending the summer.(See picture in Library Item 4)

    Justice of the Peace for the City and district of Montreal since 1890.

    Served in the Town as Councillor, Council of Westmount, for 7 years.

    Lived at 400 Cote St Antoine ("Ardchoille" gaelic for 'wooded heights') Westmount according to the 1904-05 "Dau's Society Blue Book" found at the Toronto Public Library https://archive.org/stream/daussocietyblueb00montuoft#page/68/mode/2up. Also living with him were his wife, son Wickliffe and presumably his Mother-in-law "Mrs nee Rodger". His son William Jr lived down the street at #326 with his wife.

    By 1911 he had moved to 539 Grosvenor Ave, Westmount, accoring to Dau's Society Blue Book 1911

    William married Elizabeth McGowan RODGER. Elizabeth was born in 1839 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland, UK; died in 1920 in Baltimore, Maryland, USA; was buried in 1920 in Woodlawn Cemetery, Woodlawn County, Baltimore, Maryland, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Elizabeth McGowan RODGER was born in 1839 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland, UK; died in 1920 in Baltimore, Maryland, USA; was buried in 1920 in Woodlawn Cemetery, Woodlawn County, Baltimore, Maryland, USA.

    Notes:

    Granddaughter of Alexander Rodger, the Poet who published well known songs including "Robin Tamsen's Smiddy" "Marry for love and work for siller"

    Year of birth is 1836 in Family Search but 1839 on tombstone.

    Children:
    1. James GREIG was born on 12 Jul 1862 in Montreal; died about 1862.
    2. William GREIG was born on 3 Mar 1864 in Montreal; died in Feb 1922.
    3. John Graham GREIG was born on 30 Mar 1866 in Montreal; died about 1866.
    4. Robert GREIG was born on 29 May 1868 in Montreal; died on 1 Aug 1926 in Queens, New York State, USA.
    5. 2. James Rodger GREIG was born on 21 May 1870 in Montreal; died in Jan 1941 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA; was buried on 31 Jan 1941 in Arlington, Delaware County, Pennsylvania, USA.
    6. Professor Alexander Rodger GREIG was born on 18 Dec 1872 in Montreal.
    7. Reverend John Graham (II) GREIG was born on 6 Jun 1875 in Montreal; died before 1949 in Valleyfield, Quebec.
    8. Elizabeth McGowan Rodger GREIG was born on 6 Jun 1875; died on 15 Nov 1949 in Vancouver; was buried on 17 Nov 1949 in Ocean View Burial Park, Vancouver.
    9. Janet Morrison GREIG
    10. Margaret Rodger GREIG was born on 13 Sep 1877 in Montreal; died on 20 Feb 1945 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
    11. Wickliffe Knox Luther GREIG was born on 14 Nov 1883 in Montreal; was christened on 12 Mar 1884 in Montreal; died about 18 Nov 1941 in Toronto; was buried in Cobourg Union Cemetery, Cobourg, Ontario.

  3. 6.  William B GREY

    Notes:

    Of Carleton Place, Ontario

    William married Jane. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Jane
    Children:
    1. 3. Sarah Hall GREY was born about 1870 in Carleton Place, Ontario.
    2. Agnes GREY


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John Graham GREIG was born on 2 Jan 1802 in Monkwearmouth, Durham County, England (son of John GREIG and Agnes GRAHAM); died on 24 Nov 1847 in Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham, England.

    Notes:

    Note - married his cousin.

    The Partial history reports that he "emigrated to Glasgow where he died. From where did he emigrate?

    John married Janet MORRISON. Janet (daughter of Robert MORRISON and Margaret GRAHAM) was born on 4 Dec 1803 in Bridgeton, Glasgow, Scotland; died on 23 Sep 1882. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Janet MORRISON was born on 4 Dec 1803 in Bridgeton, Glasgow, Scotland (daughter of Robert MORRISON and Margaret GRAHAM); died on 23 Sep 1882.
    Children:
    1. Agnes GREIG was born on 17 Aug 1827 in Bridgeton, Glasgow; died about 1827.
    2. Robert GREIG was born on 14 Feb 1829 in Bridgeton, Glasgow.
    3. John Graham GREIG was born on 6 Jan 1831 in Bridgeton, Glasgow; died in in Sunderland, England.
    4. Andrew GREIG was born on 12 Feb 1833 in Bridgeton, Glasgow; died about 1833.
    5. Andrew (II) GREIG was born on 21 Dec 1834 in Bridgeton, Glasgow.
    6. 4. William GREIG was born on 6 Jun 1837 in Bridgeton, Glasgow; died on 13 Sep 1922 in South Bristol, Maine, USA; was buried in 1922 in Woodlawn Cemetery, Woodlawn County, Baltimore, Maryland, USA.
    7. Agnes (II) GREIG was born on 20 Jan 1839 in Bridgeton, Glasgow; died about 1839.
    8. Margaret GREIG was born on 17 Dec 1840 in Bridgeton, Glasgow.
    9. Richard Cameron GREIG was born on 14 Sep 1843 in Bridgeton, Glasgow; died about 1843.
    10. Donald Cargill GREIG was born on 29 Jun 1845 in Bridgeton, Glasgow; died about 1845.
    11. Marion GREIG was born on 6 Aug 1848 in Bridgeton, Glasgow; was christened on 12 Nov 1848 in Great Hamilton Street Reformed Presbyterian, Glasgow, Scotland; died on 28 Feb 1850 in Scotland.