Family/Spouse: Living HELLE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Living HELLE
2. Living HELLE
3. Living HELLE
4. Living HELLE

Family/Spouse: Living KYLE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./ William Elisha and Cecil John Melmer: e-mail from Jo-Anne Beekx

William Elisha Melmer and Cecil John Melmer are one and the same. I have a copy of original and there is a notation on the lower right corner (can't be seen on computer image) that states "Registration changed by inking out William Elisha, establishing Cecil John as per declaration by Father. March 4, 1909". I have not been able to find out why.

Cecil married Ethel Grace CUMBERS on 03 Dec 1923 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Ethel (daughter of John William CUMBERS and Edna Celia WATSON) was born on 06 Aug 1904 in Winnipeg, Manitoba; died on 08 Dec 1977 in London, Ontario; was buried in Forest Lawn Memorial Gardens, London Middlesex London MX-141. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./ Part of e-mail from Vera VanWagoner on 4/13/02 in response to Jo-Anne Beekx (Melmer) contact w/RAM

My thanks to Jo-Anne who just gave us news of family that is very important to me. Cecil's brother, Russell, was my mother's first cousin and they were very close. John Melmer, (father of Cecil, Russell, Ida and Dora) was my grandmother Grace Melmer's brother and as brother and sister they were very close. John Melmer and wife Mary invited his sister Grace and her daughter (my mother, Ruth) to spend a winter with them in Florida. When Grace Melmer came to Michigan to live, whenever she went back to Canada to visit which was quite often, she most always stayed with her brother Jack and his wife Mary. Russell said when he would come home at night, he always knew when Aunt Grace was visiting as he could hear her snoring.

NOTE 2./ 1901 London Middlesex census: District: ON MIDDLESEX (East/Est) (#87)
Subdistrict: London (City/Cité) Wards/Quartiers No. 3 and 4 D-3 Page 10

Family Name Sex Relationship M/S DOB Age
103 Hunt Eliza F Head W Jul 24 1838 62
103 Melmar John M Boarder M Jul 28 1877 23
103 Melmar Mary F Boarder's Wife M Mar 10 1879 21

NOTE 3./ Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957

Name Arrival Date Estimated Birth Year Port of Arrival
John H Melmer 12 May 1921 Detroit, Michigan
John H Melmer 11 Oct 1920 Detroit, Michigan
Mary Melmer 11 Oct 1920 Detroit, Michigan
Mary Melmer 1 May 1921 Detroit, Michigan

John married Mary Priscilla HUNT on 27 Sep 1899 in London, Ontario, Canada. Mary (daughter of Elisha HUNT and Elizabeth Catherine MILLS) was born on 10 Mar 1880 in London, Ontario; died on 08 Dec 1961 in St Mary Hospital, London, Ontario; was buried on 11 Dec 1961 in Forest Lawn Memorial Gardens, London Middlesex London MX-141. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./ Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957

Name Arrival Date Estimated Birth Year Port of Arrival
John H Melmer 12 May 1921 Detroit, Michigan
John H Melmer 11 Oct 1920 Detroit, Michigan
Mary Melmer 11 Oct 1920 Detroit, Michigan
Mary Melmer 1 May 1921 Detroit, Michigan

Notes:

Notes for JOHN WILLIAM CUMBERS:
John is buried in the old St. James Cemetery in Winnipeg. Walter (his brother) and wife Daisy are buried next to him.

John J. Lowen, of Kingston, Ontario (grandson of Walter William Cumbers) has supplied what purports to be a "Cumbers Family History," written by someone in Winnipeg, and given to John by his Aunt Beryl Chandler. While it has many flaws, some "facts" can be gleaned from it.
1. John is said to have been named after his father, and born on the ship on the way to Canada. This cannot be true. The 1891 Canadian Census shows him as 18 years old, birthday February 20, 1874. Since they left England in 1884,(possibly 1882) according to the 1901 Winnipeg Census, he would have been 10 years old on board the ship.
According to this "history," he died of Typhoid Fever in the Northwest Territories. But the 1901 Winnipeg Census places him in Winnipeg, Married to Edna (Celia).

John Lowen reports that Pat Purdy, who was raised by Walter (Pop) Cumbers has photographed the grave of the eldest sibling in the John Cumbers familyi, John William Cumbers.

The grave marker apparently shows his birth date as March 18, 1874, not February 20, 1872.

John married Edna Celia WATSON on 19 Jun 1900 in Holy Trinity Church, Winnipeg, Manitoba. Edna (daughter of Joseph WATSON and Emma CHAMBERLAIN) was born on 19 Oct 1878 in Lucan, Middlesex North, Ontario; died in 1957 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Notes for CELIA (EDNA) WATSON:
Celia (Edna) Watson married John Cumbers and had two sons, Ernest, (who worked for City Dairy, and married Ruby Young,) and George, (who worked for Eatons, and had two daughters, Elizabeth (Betty) (nee Cumbers) Todd and Dorothy Cumbers.
When Celia's husband John died of Typhoid Fever, she married his brother, Henry, and had a daughter Ethel, who married Jack Millner. When Henry died, (also of Typhoid Fever), Celia (Edna) then married Mr. Wickson, and had a daughter, Ella. Although not a Cumbers, she was raised as Ernie and George's half sister. Ella's son Douglas Gudmonson, still keeps in touch with Dorothy, Betty and Aunt Ruby. (Aunt Ruby died March 26, 2000.)

Notes:

NOTE 1./ 1851 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England census,

Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
George Melmer abt 1803 Isle of Wight, Jersey, Channel Islands Head Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Matilda Melmer abt 1801 Middlesex, England Wife Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Melmer abt 1828 Leicestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Frances Melmer abt 1830 Leicestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Martha Melmer abt 1833 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daugh Cheltenham Gloucestershire
William Melmer abt 1835 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Henry Melmer abt 1838 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Matilda Cooks abt 1775 Bridgenorth, Shropshire, Eng Mother-in-law Cheltenham Gloucestershire

NOTE 2./ 1871 St louis Ward, Montreal PQ census,
Name: William Malmar
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1836
Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
religion: W. Methodist
Origin: Anglaise (English)
Province: Quebec
District: Montreal East
District Number: 105
Division: 06
Subdistrict: St Louis Ward
Subdistrict Number: a

Household Members: Name Age
William Malmar 35
Louisa Malmar 31
Emily Malmar 10
William Malmar 9
Archibald Malmar 5
Arthur Malmar 3
Cecilia Henry 14
Alfred Henry 11

NOTE 3./ 1881 Census Place: St Patrick's Ward, Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada: Source: FHL Film 1375883 NAC C-13247 Dist 134 SubDist H Div 2 Page 100 Family 502
Name Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace

William MELMER M M 46 English England Occ: Teacher Religion: Presbyterian
Louisa MELMER F M 41 English Q Religion: Presbyterian
Emily F. MELMER F 20 English O Occ: Servant Religion: Presbyterian
William R. MELMER M 20 English O Occ: Clerk Religion: Presbyterian
Archibald MELMER M 16 English O Occ: Shoe Cutter Religion: Presbyterian
Arthur MELMER M 12 English Q Religion: Presbyterian
Alice M. MELMER F 8 English O Religion: Presbyterian
Grace E. MELMER F 6 English O Religion: Presbyterian
George D. MELMER M 4 English O Religion: Presbyterian
John H. MELMER M 3 English O Religion: Presbyterian
Louisa M. MELMER F <1 English O Religion: Presbyterian Born: Dec; 4/12
Alfred HENRY M 21 English O Occ: Factory Hand Religion: Presbyterian

NOTE 4./ from the 1881 Canadian Census:

A./ William and Louisa Melmer, are the only Melmer surname enumerated in the entire 1881 Canadian census, according to the LDS census disk set. This Melmer search was for any origin or heritage, and thus in 1881, puts the only Melmers in Canada, to be those directly associated to William Melmer.

B./ Arthur is the only Child of the 9, that William Melmer fathered, to be born in Quebec. (1869) Alice b. 1873, was the 1st child of William and Louisa. Since Louisa was born in Quebec, it may be that William and Emma were living in Quebec at the time of her passing. Hence, the birth of Arthur and new marriage for William all occurring in less than a four year span between 1869 - 1873.

C./ Alfred HENRY Male, Single, 21, English Origin, Born in Ontario, Occ: Factory Hand Religion: Presbyterian; is enumerated with the William and Louisa Melmer family of 9 children that we can account for. Alfred Henry would be the 12th member of this household. There is evidence that Louisa Levine's name may have actually been Louisa Henry, as indicated on the birth certificate of George Derby Melmer. See .jpeg of certificate, August 10, 1876, parents given as William Melmer and Louisa Henry. That would either make Alfred Henry Louisa's son she could have bore at age 20, or a brother, 21 years her junior. This issue remains unresolved.

D./ Cheltenham
Created 1st July 1837.
Sub-districts : Charlton Kings; Cheltenham.
GRO volumes : XI (1837-51); 6a (1852-1930).
Badgeworth, Charlton Kings, Cheltenham, Coberley, Cowley, Great Witcombe, Leckhampton, Prestbury, Shurdington, Staverton, Swindon, Uckington, Up Hatherley
Registers now in Cheltenham district.

NOTE 5./ 1891 Hamilton City, Ontario, Canada census

Name Home in 1891 Birth Year Birthplace Relation
William Melmer Ontario, 72, Hamilton City, Ward 7 abt 1841 England Head
Louisa Melmer Ontario, 72, Hamilton City, Ward 7 abt 1841 Ontario Wife
Alfred Henry Ontario, 72, Hamilton City, Ward 7 abt 1867 Ontario Son
Alice Melmer Ontario, 72, Hamilton City, Ward 7 abt 1873 Ontario Daughter
Grace E Melmer Ontario, 72, Hamilton City, Ward 7 abt 1875 Ontario Daughter
George Melmer Ontario, 72, Hamilton City, Ward 7 abt 1886 Ontario Son
John Melmer Ontario, 72, Hamilton City, Ward 7 abt 1879 Ontario Son
Louisa Melmer Ontario, 72, Hamilton City, Ward 7 abt 1881 Ontario Daughter

Name: William Melmer
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 50
Birth Year: abt 1841
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Religion: Brethren In churt
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: Ontario
District Number: 72
District: Hamilton City
Subdistrict: Ward 7
Archive Roll #: T-6342

Household Members: Name Age
William Melmer 50
Louisa Melmer 50
Alfred Henry 24
Alice Melmer 18
Grace E Melmer 16
George Melmer 5
John Melmer 12
Louisa Melmer 10
NOTE 5./ Castle Garden.org Ship Search: <>

First name Last name Occupation Age Sex Arrived Origin Ship
William Melmer Teacher 25 M 19 Mar 1860 England James Foster

William Melmer Occupation Teacher
Age 25
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 19 Mar 1860
Origin England
Port Liverpool
Last Residence
Destination USA
Plan Unknown
Ship James Foster Jr.
Passage Unknown

NOTE 6./ Roots and Twigs: Carol Cooper (Tollgate)

Born in Cheltenham and resident with his parents and siblings at Fairview Street, St Mary`s Cheltenham in 1841 aged 6 years.
In 1851 he was living 33 St Paul`s Street North, Cheltenham, with parents and siblings, enumerated as a 16 year old teacher.
William registered the death of his father George in 1854. Place of residence 35 St Paul`s St. North, Cheltenham.
Marriage certificate on file. Married Emma Louisa Edwards in 1858 at Exeter, Devon. GRO ref 5b/139. The couple were married on 11th December 1858 at the Parish Church of All Hallows on the Walls, City of Exeter, Devon, by License, witnessed by Soloman Stoneman and Martha White. William was 23 year old bachelor Schoolmaster resident at Totnes at time of marriage whose father was George Melmer, Confectioner and Emma Louisa Edwards was a 25 year old spinster, from Allhallows, daughter of Robert Edwards, a Tailor. The couple signed the register themselves.

William was a well respected school master and was presented with a Bible upon his departure for foreign shores in 1860, inscribed as follows:
Presented to Mr William Melmer by the Committee of the Cheltenham British Schools as a token of their esteem for his fidelity, diligence and exemplary conduct in the discharge of his duties as a Pupil Techer in the Cheltenham School - signed on behalf of the Committee.

From information received from Bob Millie, a direct descendent of William Melmer, it is understood that he emigrated to Canada in March 1860 on board SS James Foster Jr. out of Liverpool to New York. Passenger List for this ship only shows William Melmer, aged 25, Teacher, born England, no indication of him travelling with wife Emma. The couple had a child born December 1859 and who died 23 April 1860 in Cheltenham - after the emigration to Canada! The baby`s death was registered by it`s grandmother, Matilda Melmer, William`s mother. Emma Melmer did indeed emigrate however, perhaps at a different time, as she had her second child in Ontario in 1861.

Emma died around 1870/72 and William remarried Louisa Henry Levine producing a further 5 children from this relationship.

The family resided in 1881 at St Patrick`s Ward, Toronto, York, Ontario, which included four surviving children from William`s first marriage (the first child Emma Matilda having died aged 6 months in Cheltenham before their passage to Canada).

William married Louisa LAVINE on 22 Feb 1871 in Point Saint-Charles Centenary Methodist Church of Montréal, Quebec. Louisa was born on 04 May 1844 in Quebec; died after 1911 in London, Middlesex County, Ontario; was buried in Hamilton Wentworth Hamilton HM-287. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./ Surname Conflict:

1./ Additional male enumerated in 1881, St Patrick's Ward, Toronto, York, Ontario, Alfred HENRY Male English 21 O Factory Hand Presbyterian is enumerated with all of rest of William and Louisa Melmer family.
2./ Birth of Alice Maud Melmer provides the following information. #004430-72 (Carleton Co) MELMER (or Milmer?), Alice Maud, f, b. 1 Sep.1872, father - William MELMER, teacher; mother - Louisa HENRY, infm - Wm Melmer, New Edinburgh.
3./ With no other evidence of Louisas name being Levine, presumption is that she was married previously to an Unknown Henry, and that her maiden name would may be Levine. This is only a presumption at this time. 3-20-2003.
4./ Birth Registration for Alice Maud Melmer indicates Louise Henry.
5./ Marriage Name: Louisa Matilda Melmer, Birth Place: London, Ont, Age: 18, Est Birth Year: abt 1880, Father Name: William Melmer, Mother Name: Louisa Weir, Spouse Name: David Hendry
6./ Marriage George Darby Melmer, Birth Place: Toronto, Age: 36, Est Birth Year: abt 1881, Father Name: William Melmer,
Mother Name: Louise Leving, Spouse Name: Edna Breckon

NOTE 2./ 1871 St louis Ward, Montreal PQ census,

William Malmar abt 1836 England St Louis Ward, Montreal East, Quebec
Louisa Malmar abt 1840 Quebec St Louis Ward, Montreal East, Quebec
Emily Malmar abt 1861 Ontario St Louis Ward, Montreal East, Quebec
William Malmar abt 1862 Ontario St Louis Ward, Montreal East, Quebec
Archibald Malmar abt 1866 Quebec St Louis Ward, Montreal East, Quebec
Arthur Malmar abt 1868 Quebec St Louis Ward, Montreal East,
Cecilia Henry abt 1857 Ontario St Louis Ward, Montreal East, Quebec
Alfred Henry abt 1860 Ontario St Louis Ward, Montreal East, Quebec.

NOTE 3./ 1891 Hamilton City, Ontario census

Name: Louisa Melmer
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 50
Birth Year: abt 1841
Birthplace: Ontario {{NOTE>>>>>BORN IN QUEBEC IN the 1881 CENSUS}}
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Religion: Free Church
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: Ontario
Mother's Birth Place: Ontario
Province: Ontario
District Number: 72
District: Hamilton City
Subdistrict: Ward 7
Archive Roll #: T-6342

Household Members: Name Age
William Melmer 50
Louisa Melmer 50
Alfred Henry 24
Alice Melmer 18
Grace E Melmer 16
George Melmer 5
John Melmer 12
Louisa Melmer 10

NOTE 4./ 1901 London Township, Ontario, Canada Census Record

Name: Louise Melmer
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 60
Birth Date: 4 May 1840
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canada (Canadian)
Religion: Presbyterian
Province: Ontario
DISTRICT: Middlesex (East/est
District Number: 87
Sub-District Number: C-8
Family Number: 61
Page: 6

Household Members: Name Age
Louise Melmer 60
Alphard S Melmer 38
Alles M Melmer 26

Name Home in 1901(Province, District, Sub-District) Birth Year Birthplace
Louise Melmer Ontario, Middlesex (East/Est), London 1840 Ontario Head
Alphard S Melmer Ontario, Middlesex (East/Est), London 1862 Ontario Son
Alles M Melmer Ontario, Middlesex (East/Est), London 1874 Ontario

NOTE 5./ 1911 London Township, Ontario, Canada Census Record

Name: Louise Melmer
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 77
Birth Date: May 1844
Birthplace: Ontario
Family Number: 113
Relation to Head of House: Head
Tribal: German
Province: Ontario
District: Middlesex East
District Number: 95
Sub-District: London Township, Bronghdale Village
Sub-District Number: 5
Census Year: 1911
Page: 11
Household Members: Name Birth Year
Louise Melmer 1844
Alice M Melmer 1880
Alfred H Melmer 1861

NOTE 6./ Mariages non catholiques de la région de Montréal, 1766-1899, "Electronic," DÉTAILS pour Melmer William
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Nom époux Melmer
Prénom époux William
Nom épouse Henry
Prénom épouse Louisa
Année 1871
Église Point Saint-Charles Centenary Methodist Church (Montréal)
Confession Méthodiste
Pagination 5
Source Centre d'archives de Montréal, CE601,S99

Notes:

NOTE 1./ 1841 England East Stower Dorset census,

Name Est birth year Birthplace Civil parish County/Island
Silas Hunt abt 1793 Dorset, England East Stower Dorset
Jane Hunt abt 1781 Dorset, England East Stower Dorset
George Hunt abt 1817 Dorset, England East Stower Dorset
Samuel Hunt abt 1821 Dorset, England East Stower Dorset
Edward Hunt abt 1825 Dorset, England East Stower Dorset
Elisha Hunt abt 1828 Dorset, England East Stower Dorset

NOTE 2./ New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Elisha Hunt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: West Point
Date of Arrival: 5-20-1850
Search Ship Database: Search the West Point in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 16
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_88
List Number: 405

NOTE 3./ e-mail from Terry Melmer on 11/10/2006

Elisha Hunt my great grandfather either owned or worked at Hunt blacksmith shop on Dundas St. London Ontario across the street from the Western Fair. Western fair is the longest annual fair in Canada app.160yrs. Back to Elisha Hunt, a highly skilled trained in Sheffield England and did classic iron work on some of London's finest buildings. Wolsley Barracks [used to be huge] St. Pauls Cathedral and others my father told me.

Elisha married Elizabeth Catherine MILLS. Elizabeth was born on 24 Jul 1838 in Quebec, Canada; died after 1901 in London, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Woodland Cemetery, London, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Elizabeth STANTON on 26 Aug 1871 in Leyton Church, Leyton, Essex, England. Elizabeth (daughter of William STANTON) was born on 28 Feb 1853 in England; died on 10 Jul 1913 in Winnipeg Manitoba. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Joseph married Emma CHAMBERLAIN. Emma was born on 10 Sep 1851 in Ontario; died after 1901 in Alberton, Algoma, Ontario. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]