AndrewSr married Mary (McKie) MACKIE in 1759 in Cameron, Fife, Scotland. Mary (daughter of John1 MACKIE and Mary PITCAIRNE) was born on 14 Feb 1731 in Baldinnie, Ceres, Fife, Scotland; was christened on 14 Feb 1731 in Baldinnie Ground, Ceres, Fifeshire, Scotland; died on 25 Apr 1815 in Dairsie Parish, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Janet SCOTT on 04 Dec 1796 in Balmerino, Fife, Scotland. Janet was born in 1767 in Crail parish, Fife, Scotland; died on 22 Sep 1858 in Balmerino, Fife, Scotland; was buried in churchyard, Balmerino, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mary married David DOTT on 22 Sep 1781 in Ceres, Fife, Scotland. David was born about 1756 in Dairse, , Fife, Scotland; died between 1801 and 1827. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Laurensnellgroveancestor married Mary BLACK on 27 Jun 1789 in Kennoway, Ceres, Fife, Scotland. Mary (daughter of John BLACK and Anna HUME) was born on 12 Aug 1762 in Kennoway parish, Fifeshire, Scotland; died on 01 Jul 1847 in Kettle parish, Fifeshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Janet married Robert KENNEDY on 19 Mar 1791 in Ceres Parish, Fife, Scotland. Robert was born about 1764. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Magdalene married Henry MILLIE about 1790 in Easthill of Bandirran, Ceres, Fife, Scotland. Henry (son of John MILLIE and Martha DONALDSON) was born on 09 Sep 1761 in Cameron, Fife, Scotland; was christened on 20 Sep 1761 in Backbraes, Ceres, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Robert married Jenny MORTON on 19 Mar 1791 in Ceres, Fife, Scotland. Jenny was born about 1771 in Cameron, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./ Historical Reference: The Year Was 1829

The year was 1829, and in Scotland, there was a catastrophic flood. According to a paper online at the website of Fettes College, Edinburgh, Scotland, the Muckle Spate (large flood) of 1829, began on August 3, 1829 in northeast Scotland and was "the most severe catastrophic flood in modern UK history." It extended across a large area of Scotland, from Inverness to Montrose, and devastated homes and agriculture in the affected areas. The Edinburgh Advertiser from August 11, 1829 provides detailed coverage of some of the affected areas, including the excerpt below:

The Dee was first observed to increase about four o'clock on Monday afternoon, and it continued to rise until about eleven o'clock on Tuesday forenoon, when it remained stationary for a few hours; after which, it began to recede with considerable rapidity. In some places, it attained an elevation of eleven feet above its ordinary level. . . The low grounds in the vicinity of the river were completely inundated, and so great, in some parts of its course, was the space over which it extended, that it presented the appearance rather of a lake than a river. . . Vast quantities of hay, straw, timber, &c. have been swept away; and so great was the force of the torrent, that many fields were stript of their soil, and covered with sand and stones. A good many cattle and sheep may have been drowned; but as it is customary, in the upper parts of the country to leave numerous flocks scattered over the hills, it will be impossible, for some time to ascertain with accuracy the numbers that have perished. Fortunately, notwithstanding the imminent to which many people were exposed from the suddenness of the inundation, no loss of human life has arisen from the overflowing of the Dee. Several cottages have, at Ballaster and other places, been carried away; and so completely were others surrounded with water, that a stranger could scarce have told on which side of the river they stood. A good many people were rescued, by means of boats, from being drowned in their own houses, and were obliged to resign their furniture, &c. to destruction. With the exception of the bridge near Aberdeen, and that at Potarch, all the bridges over the Dee have either been swept away, or sustained more or less injury. . . .

Andrew married Henrietta GIBB on 29 Jan 1835 in Balmerino, Fife, Scotland. Henrietta was born in 1811; died in 1867 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Anna married William MAIN on 08 Jun 1817 in Kennoway parish, Fifeshire, Scotland. William was born about 1786 in Blackfaulds Ceres, Fife, Sctl; died after 1817. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Isabella DYRE on 21 Mar 1818 in Cambuslang Lanark Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mary married Peter MARCHALL on 21 May 1832 in Lesmahagow parish, Lanark, Scotland. Peter was born about 1790 in Carluke parish, Lanark, Scotland; died on 07 Jan 1862. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Robert married Charlotte ROBERTSON on 24 Dec 1819 in Collessie, Fifeshire, Scotland. Charlotte (daughter of Robert ROBERTSON and July KAIRNS) was born on 09 Jun 1782 in Monimail parish, Fifeshire, Scotland; died on 15 Feb 1868 in Arngask parish, Fifeshire, Scotland; was buried in churchyard, Monimail, Fifeshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Andrew2 married Jean CAMPBELL in 1818 in Ceres, Fife, Scotland. Jean was born about 1801 in Ceres, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jean married Robert MCROBBIE on 26 Nov 1826 in Monimail parish, Fife, Scotland. Robert was born about 1795 in Monimail, Fife, Scotland; died after 1881. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Janet married James WATSON on 23 Dec 1831 in Collessie parish, Fife, Scotland. James (son of Andrew WATSON and Jean RAMSAY) was born on 03 Oct 1804 in Burnturk, Kettle parish, Fife; died on 21 Apr 1850 in Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Margaret (Dixon) DICKSON on 25 Sep 1828 in Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. Margaret was born in 1812 in Kettle, Fife, Scotland; died between 1847 and 1851. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Mary BROWN on 12 Jan 1859 in Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. Mary (daughter of John BROWN and Elizabeth DARLING) was born in 1822 in Markinch, Fife, Scotland; died after 1861. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Never MARRIED. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Andrew married Esther STORY in 1838 in Kildare Diocese, Kildare, Ireland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./ 1861 Cupar, Fifeshire census

Name Estimated birth year Birthplace Relation Civil parish County
Henry Millie abt 1795 Ceres, Fifeshire Head Cupar Fife
Henry Millie abt 1855 Cupar, Fifeshire Son Cupar Fife
Mary Donaldson abt 1808 Ceres, Fifeshire Sister Cupar Fife

Family/Spouse: UNKNOWN. died before 1861 in Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

David J. Thompson
78 Shavian Blvd., London, ON, N6G 2P3
Tel: 1-519-858-0239; Fax: 1-519-858-8223

May 18, 2002

Mr. R. Millie
8700 North Shore Drive
Jonesboro, GA, 30236.

Ms. Melanie Maasdam
2205 195th Street
Clarion, Iowa 50525

Dear Bob & Melanie:

I wrote recently about some Millie's I found in Scotland I thought might be precursors of Melanie's H.H. Millie. Melanie asked me to explain, and I thought it would be a good exercise to see if it hangs together. I think Bob's line may well be connected as well, so here goes:

We have these facts:

" Henry (aka "Harry") H. Millie (H.H. Millie) was born in Ireland Feb 8, 1863. His brothers were Charles Thomas Millie and Samuel Boucher Millie. We know this from the information I got last year from the National Archives. The three emigrated to Canada in the early 1880's.

" H.H. Millie's brother Samuel Boucher Millie joined the North-West Mounted Police force on September 1, 1899 and was discharged on March 25, 1904. The archive records refer to his next of kin, Miss Lily Hariot Millie of Ballymooney, Gashill, Kings. Co., Ireland. Another record identifies his next of kin as his sister, Margaret McDowell of Upper Edmonton, now a London suburb. Samuel joined the 179th Battalion in the Canadian Expeditionary Force in World War I. This relationship is confirmed in the Archives records, and per note received from Melanie apparently written by H.H.'s daughter Emma. Although reported to have died in Winnipeg during WWI, the archives records suggest he claimed a pension in British Columbia under the name William Thompson.

" H.H. Millie's Charles Millie was found in Battleford, Saskatchewan. It appears that he was a member of the Battleford Home Guard Volunteers in the rebellion of 1885. He was given a land grant for services but took $$ instead. By 1901, when Henry had settled in Carman Manitoba, Charles was working for a rancher in Alberta near Wetaskiwin. In the letter from H. H. Millie in Carman, Manitoba to the Commissioner of the North-West Mounted Police it says that his brother Charles had died just previous to September 11, 1902. He died shortly after in Wetaskiwin. This relationship is confirmed in the Archives records, and per note received from Melanie apparently written by H.H.'s daughter Emma.

H. H. Millie also had 4 sisters per information from Melanie, as well as from the archives records of Samuel.
" Margaret Ellen Millie married a McDowell and was living in London, according to Samuel's next of kin record, at the time of WWI, at 16 Angel Road, Upper Edmonton, Enfield, England. A note from Melanie says she died December 5, 1921, aged 68, interred in Tottenham Cemetery. I found these records (LDS British Vital Records, 2nd Edition) which give the husband as Frederick, and two children, an unnamed boy and an unnamed girl, born in Dublin:
MCDOWELL, Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1875 Birthplace: No 3 South City, Dub, Ire
Recorded in: Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: George Frederick MCDOWELL
Mother: Margaret Ellen MILLIE
Source: FHL Film 255935 Dates: 1875 - 1875
***********************
MCDOWELL, Birth
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 Dec 1873 Birthplace: No 3 South City, Dub, Ire
Recorded in: Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: George Frederick MCDOWELL
Mother: Margaret Ellen MILLER
Source: FHL Film 255889 Dates: 1873 - 1875

I couldn't find them in England yet in the 1881 census.
" Lillian Hariot Millie - per note received from Melanie apparently written by H.H.'s daughter Emma, never married
" Henrietta Millie - per note received from Melanie apparently written by H.H.'s daughter Emma, never married; and
" Mary Millie, married Charles Castle.
The parents of H.H. Millie and the others were identified by Melanie as Henry Millie and Mary Dempster. The death certificate for H.H. lists his father as Henry Millie, and his mother as Mary. Note that the death certificate says that the father, Henry Millie was born in Scotland.
I found the following marriage record (in the LDS British Vital records CD's, 2nd edition) for Henry and Mary Dempster, which says Henry's father was Thomas and Mary's was Charles Dempster:
MILLIE, Henry Age: 30
Wife: Mary Jane DEMPSTER Age: 21
Marriage Date: 31 May 1851 Recorded in: St Thomas, Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Husband's Father: Thomas MILLIE
Wife's Father: Charles DEMPSTER
Source: FHL Film 101326 Dates: 1851 - 1851
(I will call H.H.'s father Henry 1821, his approximate birth date, to minimize further confusion)
According to notes from Melanie, extracts from the Kings County Chronicle report that Henry Millie Died January 7, 1891, in his 71st year at Ballymooney, Geashill, (which was where H.H. was born per his death certificate, and per his obituary in 1917 in Kelowna, B.C.). Henry's wife Mary Jane died May 20, 1899, aged 68.

According to the letter dated January 1, 1920 from Aunt Margaret Ellen McDowell (H.H.'s sister) to her niece Emma Millie McGarrity (Melanie's grandmother), the Millie's settled in Scotland. Emma Millie McGarrity's grandfather's grandfather (ie: Henry Millie's grandfather) had 4 sons, John, Tom, Andrew and Robert. The letter says that all 4 went to Ireland. Tom Millie was Henry Millie's father according to this letter. This marriage record above is consistent with this information. I was previously unable to find a Millie family in Scotland, or anywhere else which included 4 sons named John, Tom, Andrew and Robert, let alone one which would fit the requisite time frame. With the new LDS British Vital Records collections however I found the following family in Fife with the right collection of sons. Better still, the unusual name of the mother make it virtually certain, for me anyway, that the son Thomas, born 1796, is went to Ireland, as presumably did the other sons as described in Ms. McDowell's letter. The following lists the 6 sons of Henry Millie (yes, yet another one) and Magdalene Rumgay (note the name):
1. MILLIE, John Bir 1791 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdalene Rumgay
2. MILLIE, Andrew Chr 1793 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
3. MILLIE, David Chr 1794 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
4. MILLIE, Henry Chr 1794 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
5. MILLIE, Thomas Chr 1796 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
6. MILLIE, Robert Chr 1798 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdalene Rumgay

I found the marriage of this Henry and Magdalene on the LDS FamilySearch website:
Marriage:

Magdalene RUMGAY; Sex: F; Spouse: Henry MILLIE; Marriage: Abt. 1790; Banderran, Ceres, Fife, Scotland; Film # 457767

I also found the following birth record of Magdalene-I presume it is her, how many can there be?:
Magdalan RUMGAY; Sex: F; Christening: 1 September 1765, Cameron, Fife; Parents: Andrew RUMGAY, Mary Mackie. Reference: Batch # C114122, 1695-1819, Call # 1040151, Printout # 6900431.

The real proof that Thomas of this family went to Ireland lies in the marriage record below:
LATIMER, William
Wife: Magdalene Rumgay MILLIE
Marriage Date: 23 Oct 1847 Recorded in: St Peter, Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Husband's Father: James LATIMER
Wife's Father: Thomas MILLIE
Source: FHL Film 101286 Dates: 1847 - 1847
Magdalene Rumgay Millie of Dublin Ireland, daughter of Thomas Millie, MUST be the granddaughter of Henry Millie and Magdalene Rumgay of Fife. There surely can't be another Thomas Millie, of the same generation, who would name his daughter Magdalene Rumgay. Since we know that Thomas, father of Henry 1821, and grandfather of H.H Millie was born in Scotland, and moved to Ireland, and had brothers named Andrew, John and Robert, and there are so few Millie's generally, let alone in Ireland, he must be the same person as the father of Magdalene Rumgay Millie of Dublin, and she is an aunt of H.H. Millie and his siblings. Also note that like Henry 1821, she was married in Dublin, and only 4 years before Henry 1821.
Next, who did Thomas marry? Who was Henry 1821's mother? Well, the LDS website has a marriage record for a Thomas Millie and Mary McWattie, 9 December 1818, Dundee, Angus, Scotland (batch # M112824, Source Call # 0993401, Printout call # 6902959). Is this the correct Thomas? Here we go back to the letter Margaret McDowell wrote in 1920 to her niece, Emma Millie. The transcribed copy Melanie sent says:
There was a slip of paper enclosed in this letter from Aunt Maggie McDowell and this is the info as follows:
"PRIVATE and don't tell acquaintances, does no good. My father's Grandfather committed suicide from loss of an awful large sum in speculation and I believe he was a Millie, French, but I may be mistaken, he may have been McQuatty."
So yes, Thomas married Mary McWattie in Dundee. Margaret McDowell's father was Henry 1821, and his grandfathers would have been Henry Millie (married to Magdalene Rumgay) and Mary McWattie's father. This reference proves that this is the correct spouse for Thomas.

Again searching the LDS site, we find a record for the christening of Henry Millie, 10 October 1819, Dundee, Angus, Scotland; father-Thomas Millie, mother-Mary McWattie (batch # C112827, Source Call # 0993425, Printout call # 6900646)

So Melanie, I think we have you back to Scotland:
1. Henry Millie married Magdalene Rumgay in Fife Scotland in 1790.
2. Thomas, born 1796 in Ceres, Fife, Scotland, married Mary McWattie, 9 December 1818, Dundee, Angus, Scotland.
3. Henry Millie born 10 October 1819, Dundee, Angus, Scotland, married Mary Dempster 1851 in Dublin
4. Henry Herbert Millie (H.H. Millie) born February 1863 in Ireland, emigrated to Canada early 1880's, married Caroline Sarah Mills, abt. Feb. 1900 in Manitoba
5. Emma Lily Millie born abt March 6, 1901, married Joseph Patrick McGarrity, 1919
6. Lawrence Patrick Dempster McGarrity, born 1924, married Jean Anderson
7. Melanie McGarrity

I think this is pretty accurate based upon these published records. If you are energetic, you should order the microfilms from the LDS and copy the records yourself, ideally taking a print or the original registers. Not only will this document the facts, but the original registers may have additional information not picked up on the LDS indexes.

The next question is what happened to the other brothers of Thomas who went to Ireland, who were their children and grandchildren, and did Thomas have any other children besides Henry 1821 and Magdalene.

Bob's Henry Thomas Beale Millie (H.T.B.) was born September 14, 1862, in Kilkenny, Ireland, and emigrated to Canada around the time of H.H. and his brothers. H.T.B.'s parents were Robert Millie and Elizabeth Beale. (Although born in Ireland, I have always held out to Bob that he is Scottish in origin: Millie's all come from Scotland, and the south of England (perhaps French before that, but that is all beyond me), and H.T.B. was Presbyterian, basically a Scottish Protestant religion.) Was this Robert another son of Thomas, and a brother of Henry 1821 and Magdalene? Or was he a son of one of Thomas' brothers, Andrew, John or Robert, and a first cousin of Henry 1821 and Magdalene? I think given the scarcity of Millie's generally, and in Ireland in particular, these Irish Millie's of Scottish descent must be connected, and H.T.B. and H.H. were cousins, sharing common grandparents in either Thomas Millie and his wife ??, or in Henry Millie and Magdalene Rumgay. The common names, Henry, Henrietta, Robert and Thomas are all there (H.T.B also had a sister Henrietta). All were Presbyterian, indicating Scotch origin, and all came from the counties around Dublin.
If I were a betting man, that's where I would put my money.

Best regards
David

Thomas married Mary MCWATTIE on 09 Dec 1818 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland. Mary (daughter of David MCWATTIE and Margaret KID) was born about 1800 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./ THE SURNAME MILLIE

The research of the Millie Surname for my ancestors stops with Robert R. Millie. His name was obtained from the Ontario Marriage Registration of Henry Thomas Beale Millie and Grace Edith Melmer. The lost ancestors seem to be in the maze of Ireland's sons. ADDENDUM 10-12-02 : On the Marriage Registration of Henrietta Amelia Millie and Robert Scott, the parents are listed, showing that the individual previously known only as Robert R. Millie, was in fact Robert Rumgay Millie. This consequently opened the door to our Millie roots leading back from Ireland to that of Scottish origins. The single generation spent in Ireland, explains the uncommomality of the surname within her confines. Scotland however has many Rumgays, and several clans of Millies that may never be connected, in several different parishes, but to a high degree in Fife, and around central Scotland. There are several indications that our Millie surname or a derivative spelling, will lead back to France at about the time of the Hugenot Revolution.

The surname Millie is a derivative of several different spellings. Millicent, Millier, Millay, Milly, de Milly, d'Milly, Milia, Mealy and others. Andrew J. Millie of NSW Australia, has done extensive research on the relationships of these variants. An example of his findings follows: ....... " de MILLY and MILCENT are definitely 100% guaranteed to be the same families. A lot of Nobility dropped their noble surnames during the Wars of Religion and were known by different names. de Milly/Milcent is just one example of this" ..........

The derivatives surnames of Millie has it's origins in France and the family was Huguenot, '...a name given to the French Calvinist Protestants of the 16th and 17th centuries...largely inspired by Martin Luther...During the 17th century the Huguenots saw their power and privileges progressively undermined by the strongly Catholic kings Louis XIII and Louis XIV...In 1685 the Edict of Nantes was revoked, and thousands of Protestants chose to migrate from France rather than accept Catholicism.' Many, fled to England and Scotland.

NOTE 2./ FIFE, SCOTLAND : FIFE in The 1830's

POPULATION.
In 1755, the population was 2540
1793 2320
1811 2407
1821 2840
1831 2762
Number of families in the parish, 606
chiefly employed in agriculture 183
trade, manufactures, or handicraft 281

Since 1831, there has been a great increase in the number of the people ; and, from the accounts of their establishments, which were lately given in by the several manufacturers in the parish, we are authorized to say, that the population must now be about 3000 at least. In 1793, 138 looms are said to have been employed in the parish. From 700 to 900 of the inhabitants are now employed in weaving and winding. From 170 to 200 are employed regularly in the mills; and, with the exception of about 30, who are employed in the lime-works, the greater part which remains of the working population is agricultural. The town of Cupar is so near to Ceres, that there are few shopkeepers or venders of any commodities in the latter place.

CHARACTER and HABITS of the PEOPLE:.-The people are universally industrious, and in general they cultivate the sister virtues of temperance and frugality. Considerable attention to neatness and cleanliness also may be discovered among them. Dr Arnot, author of the former account, mentions, that among the women, the cloak and bonnet had become substitutes for the plaid; and among the men, that the bonnet was supplanted by the hat. It is singular enough, that the plaid and bonnet should now be both regaining their former estimation. There exists also among the people a considerable deal of information, and a general desire for knowledge. A subscription and circulating library was commenced by them in 1828. It consists now of 500 volumes, in which there is varied as well as much useful reading. There are 100 subscribers to this library.
During the last three years, there were 3 illegitimate births in the parish.

MANUFACTURES:-Since the date of the last Statistical Account three spinning mills have been built in the parish, and a bleachfield establishment has been erected at Duraden. In 1827, two mills were built on the grounds of Easter Pitscottie. The machinery is propelled partly by water, and partly by steam. The steam, in general, is only required in summer, occasionally when the water is light. The mills belong to Messrs William and James Yool, manufacturers, Ceres.
There is accommodation for the families of the workers in the buildings at these mills ; and they contain altogether upwards of 150 individuals. There is a teacher and a small library attached to the mills. The other spinning-mill, which belongs to Mr David Yool, was erected at Tarvit in 1799. The machinery at this mill goes partly by water, and partly by steam; and the power is applied also to the turning of a saw-mill. The three spinning-mills are occupied in preparing and spinning flax, tow, and yarns. The raw material is obtained from Dundee and the yarns are sent partly to the Dundee market, and partly to manufacturers in Fife. 150 men, women, and young people are employed. The bleachfield establishment was erected in 1825 by some manufacturers in Ceres. It has received the name of St Ann's Bleaching Company, from a well of that name in the vicinity. The number of hands employed varies from 35 to 40. The supply of brown raw material for it, is chiefly obtained from the mills already mentioned. Previous to the erection of this bleachfield, little was manufactured by the weavers in Ceres except " Brown Silesias;" now the yarns are all cleaned and bleached, and the people are employed in weaving dowlas and sheeting. From 700 to 900 are engaged in this employment ; and from L. 50,000 to L. 60,000 Sterling worth of dowlas and sheeting are annually manufactured in the parish. To any one who reads this statement of the manufacture, it will be evident that the various works are most profitably arranged. The mills supply the bleacbfield, and the bleachfield supplies the weavers : and while there is a saving in this manner, as to the carriage of the various articles, there is also an encouragement to the manufacture of the place. There is every likelihood that the manufacture of this flourishing place will, in a few years, become more extended ; and there are, at present, some proposals of erecting another mill on a very extensive plan..

PAROCHIAL ECONOMY
MARKETS;- There is a weekly market in Cupar, the county town, distant only two miles and a half. But this widely extended parish has an easy access to markets in several places . and some of the farmers find it convenient to send their produce to Largo, some to St Andrews, and a very few to Dundee. There are two annual markets or fairs held in the village of Ceres, one on the 24th June, and the other on the 20th day of October; and both of them are most numerously resorted to, as excellent wool, and corn, and horse, and cattle-markets.

MEANS OF COMMUNICATION;-A turnpike road runs from east to west through the whole length of the parish. There is also a road which runs from north to south, through the breadth of the parish. In summer, a daily-coach runs through Ceres, and joins the steamboat which leaves Largo for Edinburgh. A messenger, paid by the inhabitants of Ceres, carries letters or papers daily to Cupar, the post-town. There are regular carriers from Ceres to all the neighbouring towns.

ECCLESIASTICAL STATE:- Ceres parish is a rectory, which, before the Reformation, belonged to the Provostry of Kirkhheugh, a religious house at St Andrews. A considerable part of the east end of the parish formerly belonged to the parish of St Andrews, and about the year 1620, was annexed to Ceres, quoad sacra tantum, (as it was long thought;) but the present incumbent discovered that there was no such reservation, and it is now annexed, quoad sacra et civilia. Ceres originally belonged to St Andrews presbytery. In the old church of Ceres, there was an aisle on the south, which belonged to the family of Craighall, and which, before the Reformation, was a chapel dedicated to St Ninian. The schoolmaster of Ceres uniformly receives a presentation to the Chaplainry. There used to be a salary of L. 3 Scots paid to him; but the houses in Cupar from which this salary was paid cannot now be discovered. The present church was built in 1806. It stands on a height, where formerly stood the old church and chapel : it was situated on the outskirts of the old town, but since the new town or Bridge-end was built, it may be said to be in the centre of the village. It is seated for 1100, but actually holds 1300, and the seats are very advantageously disposed both for bearers and speaker. These seats all belong to the heritors of the parish, and there is no rent charged for the use of them. Seats are appropriated for the proprietors and farmers, and the remainder are free and open to the people, and, except on very bad days, they are well filled. There are two meetings in the church, winter and summer. The average number of communicants is 1000. The right of patronage, by a grant from the Crown, was vested in the Crawford family.
There are also two meeting-houses in the village of Ceres, one for the Associate Congregation of Antiburgher Seceders, which was built in 1744, the other for the Presbytery of Relief. To each of these are attached a settled clergyman and regular congregation. A brotherly feeling and Christian spirit pervades the greater number of the members of these three congregations and you will occasionally find them in each others place of worship.
There are about 86 families in this parish attached to the Relief Church, and about the same number to the Secession.

NOTE 3./ HISTORICAL reference: The Year Was 1829

The year was 1829, and in Scotland, there was a catastrophic flood. According to a paper online at the website of Fettes College, Edinburgh, Scotland, the Muckle Spate (large flood) of 1829, began on August 3, 1829 in northeast Scotland and was "the most severe catastrophic flood in modern UK history." It extended across a large area of Scotland, from Inverness to Montrose, and devastated homes and agriculture in the affected areas. The Edinburgh Advertiser from August 11, 1829 provides detailed coverage of some of the affected areas, including the excerpt below:

The Dee was first observed to increase about four o'clock on Monday afternoon, and it continued to rise until about eleven o'clock on Tuesday forenoon, when it remained stationary for a few hours; after which, it began to recede with considerable rapidity. In some places, it attained an elevation of eleven feet above its ordinary level. . . The low grounds in the vicinity of the river were completely inundated, and so great, in some parts of its course, was the space over which it extended, that it presented the appearance rather of a lake than a river. . . Vast quantities of hay, straw, timber, &c. have been swept away; and so great was the force of the torrent, that many fields were stript of their soil, and covered with sand and stones. A good many cattle and sheep may have been drowned; but as it is customary, in the upper parts of the country to leave numerous flocks scattered over the hills, it will be impossible, for some time to ascertain with accuracy the numbers that have perished. Fortunately, notwithstanding the imminent to which many people were exposed from the suddenness of the inundation, no loss of human life has arisen from the overflowing of the Dee. Several cottages have, at Ballaster and other places, been carried away; and so completely were others surrounded with water, that a stranger could scarce have told on which side of the river they stood. A good many people were rescued, by means of boats, from being drowned in their own houses, and were obliged to resign their furniture, &c. to destruction. With the exception of the bridge near Aberdeen, and that at Potarch, all the bridges over the Dee have either been swept away, or sustained more or less injury. . . .

Robert married Elizabeth Margaret BEALE in 1840 in Kildare Diocese, Kildare, Ireland. Elizabeth was born about 1819 in Kildare Diocese, Kildare, Ireland; died before 05 Aug 1886; was buried in Leinster=Dublin, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laios, Meath, Offaly and others. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Unknown DONALDSON. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: James DAVIDSON. James was born about 1795; died about 1866. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Euphemia married Thomas MCLAUCHLAN on 01 Apr 1861 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland. Thomas (son of Fergus MCLAUCHLAN and Isabella JESSIMAN) was born on 10 Feb 1841 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Charles Parker HOLT. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Jeanie BAILLIE on 31 Dec 1869 in High Church, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Jeanie was born in 1834 in Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Andrew married Lilias DAVIDSON in Dec 1844 in New Monkland parish, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Lilias was born in 1816 in New Monkland parish, Lanarkshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Adam married Margaret MCCOWAT on 24 Jun 1875 in New Monkland parish, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Margaret was born between 1834 and 1860. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

George married Elizabeth GUTHRIE on 16 Mar 1855 in Abernethy parish, Perth, Scotland.. Elizabeth (daughter of Robert GUTHRIE and Helen GRAME) was born in Oct 1825 in Auchterarder, Perth, Scotland; died in 1895 in Arngask parish, Fifeshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From the LDS Biographical Encyclopedia at Ancestry.com. <>

Latter-day Saint Biographical Encyclopedia
Volume 2
Biographies
Gillispie, Alexander

Watson, Andrew A., survivor of the hand-cart immigration of 1856, a Patriarch in the Utah Stake of Zion, and a resident of Provo, was born at Kettlebridge, Fifeshire, Scotland, Oct. 13, 1832, the son of Jas. Watson and Janet Rumgay. The family were in humble circumstances, the father working for weekly wages as engineer-tender at the Burnturk Collieries. The position was one of care and responsibility for the safety of his fellow workmen. At eight years of age Andrew moved with his parents to Balmalcoln, another village, where, as at his birthplace, the principal occupation of the people was handloom linen weaving. There he attended the common school, where the Bible was used as a text book and impressed upon his young and tender mind the beautiful lessons of the gospel. He served a two years' apprenticeship at linen weaving, but had a natural liking for mechanism and the supervision of machinery. At his fathers death, in 1850, he took his place. Two years later he moved to Lumphinan's Coal and Iron Works, where he continued to labor as engine-tender. He was religiously trained, led a Godly life, and was acquainted with the Scriptures and the doctrines of different churches, though he joined none until he became a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This was when he was about twenty-one. He was ordained a Priest Dec. 18, 1853, and an Elder June 25, 1855. During the latter year he was called into the ministry, and labored for nearly twelve months among saints and strangers prior to coming to Utah. Upon leaving his mother's home at Lumphinan April 28, 1856, he received from her the sum of ten pounds, also a suit of clothes from the saints with whom he had labored as a missionary. By way of Edinburgh and Glasgow he reached Liverpool, sailed thence to New York, proceeded to Chicago, and left that city on the 23rd of June for the outfitting camps on the frontier. It was the great hand-cart emigration. Young Watson was enrolled in Captain James G. Willie's company, one of those that suffered most severely while dragging their hand-carts through the piercing winds and heavy snow of the succeeding autumn. He records that on the 19th of October the last morsel of food was served, and that the relief wagons arrived on the 21st, just in time to rescue the starving companies. At Rocky Ridge and South Pass a fierce storm was encountered, and again the heroic little band were thrown into terrible danger. Fifteen died from fatigue and exposure. Bro. Watson himself was thoroughly exhausted, and would have perished but for the kind efforts of some of his companions who encouraged and urged him on. He makes special mention of a Sister Tofield, a Sister Evans, and of William Leadingham, captain of the guard, who proved themselves in that awful extremity devoted and self-sacrificing friends. The date of his arrival at Salt Lake City was the 9th of November. Patriarch Watson settled permanently at Provo, to which place he was sent by Bishop Edward Hunter. He did much pioneer work in that part, and helped to build the Woollen Mills, in which he is still a stockholder. In 1860 (Oct. 16th) he married Jane Allen, by whom he was the father of five children; he has two others by adoption. He married his second wife, Margaret Purvis, in January, 1881, and his first wife died March 21, 1882. From May 17, 1857, to June 20, 1877, he held the office of a Seventy, and was connected with the forty-fifth quorum. He was then ordained a High Priest and set apart as first counselor to Bishop John E. Booth, of the Provo Fourth Ward, serving also as first counselor to his successor, Bishop Joseph B. Keeler, until December 9, 1900, when he was released, owing to age and declining health. Meantime, from 1877 to 1879, he had visited his native Scotland as a missionary. He was ordained a Patriarch under the hands of Apostle Reed Smoot, June 24, 1902. A friend of the subject has said of this good and worthy man: "Andrew Watson's life has been so close an exemplification of the divine injunction, 'Let not thy right hand know what thy left hand doeth' that it would be almost impossible to get from him a resume of his life further than matters of name and date." The writer has seen him in conversation with friends, when his face has became animated and tears streamed down his aged cheeks, as he bore testimony to the goodness of God and the divine mission of Joseph Smith. His boyhood days were spent in an almost constant struggle for the support of himself and his father's family. His greatest joy was that brought by the gospel. His hardships in crossing the plains with, a hand-cart company came very near costing him his life. One of his greatest desire now, as he nears the close of life, is to thank those good sisters, his traveling companions, for the sacrifices they made for him when strength failed and he became stiffened with cold and fatigue. To their kindness and God's mercy he owes his life,—that beautiful life which has been an example of true Christian piety to all who know him. The pioneer residents of Provo remember him as a young man of twenty-five, toiling in a blacksmith shop, where plow-shares were made from wagon tires: again making ditches, grading canyon roads and carding wool at Holdaway's carding machines and the new Woollen Mills, thus helping to make and increase the industries of the growing town. In the "move" from Salt Lake City in 1858 he was a prominent worker, and through many nights of that perilous time he stood guard. Through his liberal contributions the emigration funds were often swelled, though his mother, the dearest emigrant to him, did not live to use the means he provided for her journey to Zion. Through the long years that have followed those pioneer days, whether years of adversity or of prosperity, Brother Watson and his devoted helpmates, Sisters Jane and Maggie, with one accord have held open their hearts and their home for the poor that need aid and the distressed that need comfort. Their home has always been a home for the widow and the orphan and many such have found shelter therein. When the books are opened before the Eternal Judge, Andrew Watson shall not lack for the good testimony of men and of angels. The Father will surely say, "Good and faithful servant, enter thou into my rest."

Andrew married Jane ALLAN on 16 Oct 1860 in Provo, Utah County, Utah. Jane (daughter of George ALLAN and Margaret MATHESON) was born on 29 Aug 1830 in Arbroath, Angus, Scotland; died on 21 Mar 1882 in Provo, Utah County, Utah. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Andrew married Margaret PURVIS in Jan 1881. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mary married James GATHERUM on 03 Sep 1857 in Largo, Fife. James (son of Thomas GATHERUM and Catherine SHEPHERD) was born on 13 May 1832 in Largo, Fife; died on 13 Jan 1909 in Provo, Utah County, Utah. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Euphemia Izatt ADAMSON on 30 Sep 1866. Euphemia was born about 1843. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Janet married Edward James UNDERWOOD on 01 Jan 1866 in Provo, Utah. Edward was born on 24 Mar 1835 in New Albany, Clark County, Utah; died on 25 Jan 1922 in Salem, Utah Co., Utah. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Euphemia married John METHVEN on 07 Jan 1853 in Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. John (son of John METHVEN and Christian Barclay KIDD) was born on 09 Feb 1833 in Abernethy parish, Perth, Scotland.. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Alexander LOWE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Betsy YOUNG on 27 Nov 1853 in Kinclaven, Perth, Scotland. Betsy was born in 1833 in Nineoch, Kinclaven, Perth, Scotland; died about 1891. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Andrew married Margaret SYME on 30 Dec 1853 in Falkland Fife Scotland. Margaret (daughter of Robert SYME) was born in 1832 in Dumbarry, Perth, Scotland; died after 1874 in Australia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Janet HUNTER on 13 Dec 1861 in Saucher, Collace, Perth, Scotland. Janet (daughter of Peter HUNTER and Fanny NAIRNE) was born in 1840 in Dundee, Forfar, Angus, Scotland; died in 1886 in Collace, Perth, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Robert married Ann COVENTRY on 23 Nov 1860 in Scotlandwell, Portmoak, Kinross, Scotland. Ann (daughter of Thomas COVENTRY and Elizabeth CRAW) was born in 1842 in Kingskettle, Kettle, Fife. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

James married Jane MURRAY on 09 Jun 1865 in Ardler, Kettins, Angus, Scotland. Jane (daughter of Andrew MURRAY and Helen LAMB) was born on 07 Aug 1842 in Kettins Angus Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

George married Ann AYLING on 23 Dec 1870 in Kingswood by Reigate Surrey England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaret married William DINGWALL on 30 Mar 1866 in Ceres, Fife, Scotland. William (son of Robert DINGWALL and Elizabeth KILGOUR) was born in 1845. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Ann married David WHYTE on 11 Dec 1874 in Blythswood, Glasgow, Scotland. David (son of DavidSr WHYTE and Janet MACKIE) was born on 15 Dec 1846 in Falkland parish, Fife, Scotland.; died on 12 Jan 1923 in 12 Lina Street in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland; was buried in Bennochy Cemetery, Kirkcaldy. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./ Rent book, 1884: Geashill Rate Book, 1883/4 (see .bmp image)
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General warrant to collect county rates of the Barony of Geashill after Spring assizes, 1884, dated 29th day of April 1884 with the entry for Lord Digby in the townsland of Bawnmore.

NOTE 2./ Geashill Castle

A castle existed at Geashill from c1200. The Book of Howth mentions that 'the Lord of Offalye builded the Castell of Geschell ' in 1307. The castle may have been erected on or near the site of an earlier castle. The photograph depicts the later manor house and the ruins of the earlier castle to the right of the house.

NOTE 3./ Historical Perspective: The Year Was 1873

The year was 1873 and much of the world was entering into a long period of economic depression. The beginning of the Long Depression is typically marked by the crash of the Vienna stock market, which sent ripples across Europe and eventually the United States with the fall of Jay Cooke & Company. The Cooke investment bank was heavily invested in the overbuilt railroad system which was beginning to fail. With the fall of this prominent company, a financial panic ensued and the New York Stock Exchange had to close for ten days. Railroads, factories, banks, and businesses had to close their doors resulting in skyrocketing unemployment rates. The Long Depression would last into the 1890s.

There were other smaller scale disasters in 1873. The British SS Atlantic out of Liverpool (with a stop at Queenstown) hit a submerged rock en route to New York and was wrecked in heavy seas off Nova Scotia. It is estimated that 545 of the 952 passengers perished.

In Baltimore, Maryland, a fire began in the factory of Joseph Thomas and Sons and spread over ten acres of the city. Photos of the fire and aftermath can be found online at the Maryland Historical Society.

A cholera epidemic swept through Birmingham, Alabama. Below is an interesting excerpt from a report from Mortimer H. Jordan, who was secretary of the Jefferson County Medical Society of Birmingham, Alabama, at the time of the epidemic (found on the website of the Reynolds Historical Library at the University of Alabama at Birmingham).

The treatment adopted was the opium and mercurial. When the stomach seemed so inactive that nothing made any impression upon it, an emetic of mustard, salt, ginger, and pepper, suspended in hot water, in many cases produced a warm glow over the surface of the body in a few moments. . . . Diuretics produced no good results. No condition in life, sex, or age escaped. The sucking babe and those of extreme age suffered alike from its ravages.

Before closing this paper, justice demands that we should briefly allude to the heroic and self sacrificing conduct, during this epidemic, of that unfortunate class who are known as 'women of the town.' These poor creatures, though outcasts from society, anathematized by the church, despised by women and maltreated by men, when the pestilence swept over the city, came forth from their homes to nurse the sick and close the eyes of the dead. It was passing strange that they would receive no pay, expected no thanks; they only went where their presence was needed, and never remained longer than they could do good. While we abhor the degradation of these unfortunates, their magnanimous behavior during these fearful days has drawn forth our sympathy and gratitude.

Further north and west, Jesse James and the James- Younger gang robbed a Rock Island train near Adair, Iowa. This first train robbery netted the gang more than $2,300, but was most likely a disappointment for the gang. They were expecting a $100,000 gold shipment, but that shipment had been switched to another train at the last moment.

North of the border in Canada, the Dominion Parliament had more lawful goals in mind when it established the North-West Mounted Police, the predecessor of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Canada was growing and in 1873 Prince Edward Island joined the federation as Canada's smallest province.

In music, the song Home on the Range was born (Daniel Kelly & Brewster M. Higley). The tune went on to become the state song of Kansas and is known around the world.

Henry married Mary Jane DEMPSTER on 31 May 1851 in St. Thomas, Dublin, Ireland. Mary (daughter of Charles DEMPSTER) was born about 1830 in England; died on 20 May 1899 in Ballymooney, Geashill, Ireland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

David Thompson e-mail on 5-15-2002:

Hi Melanie & Hi Bob:
I got the new LDS UK Vital Records CD today and I am having some fun. My notes tell me that from Melanie's past we figured her HH Millie's parents were Henry MILLIE and Mary DEMPSEY. I found the following record which confirms Henry's father was Thomas and Mary's was Charles Dempsey:
MILLIE, Henry Age: 30
Wife: Mary Jane DEMPSTER Age: 21
Marriage Date: 31 May 1851 Recorded in: St. Thomas, Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Husband's Father: Thomas MILLIE
Wife's Father: Charles DEMPSTER
Source: FHL Film 101326 Dates: 1851 - 1851

We also had figured that Thomas's MILLIE had brothers Robert, John and Andrew. Well, I found a family with all these children:
MILLIE, John Bir 1791 Scot Fife Ceres: Fa: Henry Millie ; Mo: Magdalene Rumgay
MILLIE, Andrew Chr 1793 Scot Fife Ceres: Fa: Henry Millie ; Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
MILLIE, David Chr 1794 Scot Fife Ceres: Fa: Henry Millie ; Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
MILLIE, Henry Chr 1794 Scot Fife Ceres: Fa: Henry Millie ; Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
MILLIE, Thomas Chr 1796 Scot Fife Ceres: Fa: Henry Millie ; Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
MILLIE, Robert Chr 1798 Scot Fife Ceres: Fa: Henry Millie ; Mo: Magdalene Rumgay

I also found the following who may be an aunt of HH, her father was Thomas, she was in Dublin, and note her first and middle names, the same as Thomas above:
LATIMER, William
Wife: Magdalene Rumgay MILLIE
Marriage Date: 23 Oct 1847 Recorded in: St. Peter, Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Husband's Father: James LATIMER
Wife's Father: Thomas MILLIE
Source: FHL Film 101286 Dates: 1847 - 1847
I still bet that Bob's Henry comes down this line. Likely a couple or all of the brothers went to Ireland together.

Magdalene married William LATIMER on 23 Oct 1847 in St Peters, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland. William (son of James LATIMER) was born about 1822 in Dublin, Dublin, Ireland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Never MARRIED. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Hilary Martin O'KELLY. Hilary (son of Mathias O'KELLY and UNKNOWN) was born about 1846 in Dublin, Ireland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Thomas Samuel MEDILL. Thomas was born in 1842 in Ireland; died on 30 Aug 1909 in 27 Lingfield Rd, Wimbledon, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Hi Bob – just in case you were thinking I had completely abandoned all Millie research……a couple of weeks ago, I used the website www.scotsorigins.com to try and track down HAM’s birth certificate. I was planning to get hers first and then work through her siblings. Remember that I had assumed that she was born in the Inverness area of Scotland for various reasons:-

An aunt of mine recalled that she came from Inverness. Her father’s name, as entered on her marriage certificate was Robert Rumgay Millie and the Rumgays are, as you know, a widespread Scottish family.
Despite being resident in Dublin at the time of her wedding, she and John Robert Scott made the effort to travel all the way back to Inverness to get married. It must have been a nightmare journey in those days. As both her parents were dead by the time of her marriage, I could only assume that she was going ‘home’ to get married for sentimental reasons.

Anyway, Scots origins charge a small amount of money and take a little time, but I was gobsmacked (as we say here in Blighty) to receive an email telling me that “There is no record of this birth in the OPRs anywhere in Scotland between 1845 and 1854.”

So why, in the name of all that’s holy, did the silly old trout go gallivanting off to bonny Scotland to tie the knot with JR? I just don’t get it. Of course, there is the possibility that she was born in Ireland, but I really hope not because that will make it virtually impossible to track down a certificate.

Meanwhile, I remembered a scrap of paper I have on which my great aunt Olive (HAM’s daughter) had scribbled “Alfred Goodbody, son of Richard Goodbody. Alfred Goodbody 1st cousin to Grandmother Millie.” The Grandmother Millie she refers to would, of course have been Elizabeth Beale. So…bearing in mind that families tended to stick together much more in days gone by, I began to search for anywhere that showed Beales and Goodbodys occurring in clusters. By some circuitous route, I managed to find the website for Abney Park Cemetery in north London. It lists 22 Beals, 62 Beales and 14 Goodbodys. Unfortunately, I haven’t got any further than that. It is all very frustrating and so annoying that we cannot come up with any concrete evidence, only shots in the dark and supposition.

Best, Clare.

Henrietta married John Robert SCOTT on 05 Aug 1886 in Inverness, Scotland. John (son of George SCOTT and Jane LEEPER) was born in 1850 in Dublin, Ireland; died about 1909. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

NOTE 1./
David T:
May 18, 2002 letter
Mr. Robert. M
Ms. Melanie M

Dear Bob & Melanie:

I wrote recently about some Millie's I found in Scotland I thought might be precursors of Melanie's H.H. Millie. Melanie asked me to explain, and I thought it would be a good exercise to see if it hangs together. I think Bob's line may well be connected as well, so here goes:

We have these facts:
" Henry (aka "Harry") H. Millie (H.H. Millie) was born in Ireland Feb 8, 1863. His brothers were Charles Thomas Millie and Samuel Boucher Millie. We know this from the information I got last year from the National Archives. The three emigrated to Canada in the early 1880's.
" H.H. Millie's brother Samuel Boucher Millie joined the North-West Mounted Police force on September 1, 1899 and was discharged on March 25, 1904. The archive records refer to his next of kin, Miss Lily Hariot Millie of Ballymooney, Gashill, Kings. Co., Ireland. Another record identifies his next of kin as his sister, Margaret McDowell of Upper Edmonton, now a London suburb. Samuel joined the 179th Battalion in the Canadian Expeditionary Force in World War I. This relationship is confirmed in the Archives records, and per note received from Melanie apparently written by H.H.'s daughter Emma. Although reported to have died in Winnipeg during WWI, the archives records suggest he claimed a pension in British Columbia under the name William Thompson.
" H.H. Millie's Charles Millie was found in Battleford, Saskatchewan. It appears that he was a member of the Battleford Home Guard Volunteers in the rebellion of 1885. He was given a land grant for services but took $$ instead. By 1901, when Henry had settled in Carman Manitoba, Charles was working for a rancher in Alberta near Wetaskiwin. In the letter from H. H. Millie in Carman, Manitoba to the Commissioner of the North-West Mounted Police it says that his brother Charles had died just previous to September 11, 1902. He died shortly after in Wetaskiwin. This relationship is confirmed in the Archives records, and per note received from Melanie apparently written by H.H.'s daughter Emma.
H. H. Millie also had 4 sisters per information from Melanie, as well as from the archives records of Samuel.
" Margaret Ellen Millie married a McDowell and was living in London, according to Samuel's next of kin record, at the time of WWI, at 16 Angel Road, Upper Edmonton, Enfield, England. A note from Melanie says she died December 5, 1921, aged 68, interred in Tottenham Cemetery. I found these records (LDS British Vital Records, 2nd Edition) which give the husband as Frederick, and two children, an unnamed boy and an unnamed girl, born in Dublin:
MCDOWELL, Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1875 Birthplace: No 3 South City, Dub, Ire
Recorded in: Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: George Frederick MCDOWELL
Mother: Margaret Ellen MILLIE
Source: FHL Film 255935 Dates: 1875 - 1875
***********************
MCDOWELL, Birth
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 Dec 1873 Birthplace: No 3 South City, Dub, Ire
Recorded in: Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: George Frederick MCDOWELL
Mother: Margaret Ellen MILLER
Source: FHL Film 255889 Dates: 1873 - 1875
I couldn't find them in England yet in the 1881 census.
" Lillian Hariot Millie - per note received from Melanie apparently written by H.H.'s daughter Emma, never married
" Henrietta Millie - per note received from Melanie apparently written by H.H.'s daughter Emma, never married; and
" Mary Millie, married Charles Castle.
The parents of H.H. Millie and the others were identified by Melanie as Henry Millie and Mary Dempster. The death certificate for H.H. lists his father as Henry Millie, and his mother as Mary. Note that the death certificate says that the father, Henry Millie was born in Scotland.
I found the following marriage record (in the LDS British Vital records CD's, 2nd edition) for Henry and Mary Dempster, which says Henry's father was Thomas and Mary's was Charles Dempster:
MILLIE, Henry Age: 30
Wife: Mary Jane DEMPSTER Age: 21
Marriage Date: 31 May 1851 Recorded in: St Thomas, Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Husband's Father: Thomas MILLIE
Wife's Father: Charles DEMPSTER
Source: FHL Film 101326 Dates: 1851 - 1851
(I will call H.H.'s father Henry 1821, his approximate birth date, to minimize further confusion)
According to notes from Melanie, extracts from the Kings County Chronicle report that Henry Millie Died January 7, 1891, in his 71st year at Ballymooney, Geashill, (which was where H.H. was born per his death certificate, and per his obituary in 1917 in Kelowna, B.C.). Henry's wife Mary Jane died May 20, 1899, aged 68.

According to the letter dated January 1, 1920 from Aunt Margaret Ellen McDowell (H.H.'s sister) to her niece Emma Millie McGarrity (Melanie's grandmother), the Millie's settled in Scotland. Emma Millie McGarrity's grandfather's grandfather (ie: Henry Millie's grandfather) had 4 sons, John, Tom, Andrew and Robert. The letter says that all 4 went to Ireland. Tom Millie was Henry Millie's father according to this letter. This marriage record above is consistent with this information. I was previously unable to find a Millie family in Scotland, or anywhere else which included 4 sons named John, Tom, Andrew and Robert, let alone one which would fit the requisite time frame. With the new LDS British Vital Records collections however I found the following family in Fife with the right collection of sons. Better still, the unusual name of the mother make it virtually certain, for me anyway, that the son Thomas, born 1796, is went to Ireland, as presumably did the other sons as described in Ms. McDowell's letter. The following lists the 6 sons of Henry Millie (yes, yet another one) and Magdalene Rumgay (note the name):
1. MILLIE, John Bir 1791 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdalene Rumgay
2. MILLIE, Andrew Chr 1793 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
3. MILLIE, David Chr 1794 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
4. MILLIE, Henry Chr 1794 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
5. MILLIE, Thomas Chr 1796 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdaline Rumgay
6. MILLIE, Robert Chr 1798 Scot Fife Ceres
Fa: Henry Millie, Mo: Magdalene Rumgay

I found the marriage of this Henry and Magdalene on the LDS FamilySearch website:
Marriage:
Magdalene RUMGAY; Sex: F; Spouse: Henry MILLIE; Marriage: Abt. 1790; Banderran, Ceres, Fife, Scotland; Film # 457767
I also found the following birth record of Magdalene-I presume it is her, how many can there be?:
Magdalan RUMGAY; Sex: F; Christening: 1 September 1765, Cameron, Fife; Parents: Andrew RUMGAY, Mary Mackie. Reference: Batch # C114122, 1695-1819, Call # 1040151, Printout # 6900431.

The real proof that Thomas of this family went to Ireland lies in the marriage record below:
LATIMER, William
Wife: Magdalene Rumgay MILLIE ; Marriage Date: 23 Oct 1847 Recorded in: St Peter, Dublin, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration; Husband's Father: James LATIMER; Wife's Father: Thomas MILLIE
Source: FHL Film 101286 Dates: 1847 - 1847

Magdalene Rumgay Millie of Dublin Ireland, daughter of Thomas Millie, MUST be the granddaughter of Henry Millie and Magdalene Rumgay of Fife. There surely can't be another Thomas Millie, of the same generation, who would name his daughter Magdalene Rumgay. Since we know that Thomas, father of Henry 1821, and grandfather of H.H Millie was born in Scotland, and moved to Ireland, and had brothers named Andrew, John and Robert, and there are so few Millie's generally, let alone in Ireland, he must be the same person as the father of Magdalene Rumgay Millie of Dublin, and she is an aunt of H.H. Millie and his siblings. Also note that like Henry 1821, she was married in Dublin, and only 4 years before Henry 1821.
Next, who did Thomas marry? Who was Henry 1821's mother? Well, the LDS website has a marriage record for a Thomas Millie and Mary McWattie, 9 December 1818, Dundee, Angus, Scotland (batch # M112824, Source Call # 0993401, Printout call # 6902959). Is this the correct Thomas? Here we go back to the letter Margaret McDowell wrote in 1920 to her niece, Emma Millie. The transcribed copy Melanie sent says:
There was a slip of paper enclosed in this letter from Aunt Maggie McDowell and this is the info as follows: "PRIVATE and don't tell acquaintances, does no good. My father's Grandfather committed suicide from loss of an awful large sum in speculation and I believe he was a Millie, French, but I may be mistaken, he may have been McQuatty."
So yes, Thomas married Mary McWattie in Dundee. Margaret McDowell's father was Henry 1821, and his grandfathers would have been Henry Millie (married to Magdalene Rumgay) and Mary McWattie's father. This reference proves that this is the correct spouse for Thomas.

Again searching the LDS site, we find a record for the christening of Henry Millie, 10 October 1819, Dundee, Angus, Scotland; father-Thomas Millie, mother-Mary McWattie (batch # C112827, Source Call # 0993425, Printout call # 6900646)

So Melanie, I think we have you back to Scotland:
1. Henry Millie married Magdalene Rumgay in Fife Scotland in 1790.
2. Thomas, born 1796 in Ceres, Fife, Scotland, married Mary McWattie, 9 December 1818, Dundee, Angus, Scotland.
3. Henry Millie born 10 October 1819, Dundee, Angus, Scotland, married Mary Dempster 1851 in Dublin
4. Henry Herbert Millie (H.H. Millie) born February 1863 in Ireland, emigrated to Canada early 1880's, married Caroline Sarah Mills, abt. Feb. 1900 in Manitoba
5. Emma Lily Millie born abt March 6, 1901, married Joseph Patrick McGarrity, 1919
6. Lawrence Patrick Dempster McGarrity, born 1924, married Jean Anderson
7. Melanie McGarrity

I think this is pretty accurate based upon these published records. If you are energetic, you should order the microfilms from the LDS and copy the records yourself, ideally taking a print or the original registers. Not only will this document the facts, but the original registers may have additional information not picked up on the LDS indexes.

The next question is what happened to the other brothers of Thomas who went to Ireland, who were their children and grandchildren, and did Thomas have any other children besides Henry 1821 and Magdalene.

Bob's Henry Thomas Beale Millie (H.T.B.) was born September 14, 1862, in Kilkenny, Ireland, and emigrated to Canada around the time of H.H. and his brothers. H.T.B.'s parents were Robert Millie and Elizabeth Beale. (Although born in Ireland, I have always held out to Bob that he is Scottish in origin: Millie's all come from Scotland, and the south of England (perhaps French before that, but that is all beyond me), and H.T.B. was Presbyterian, basically a Scottish Protestant religion.) Was this Robert another son of Thomas, and a brother of Henry 1821 and Magdalene? Or was he a son of one of Thomas' brothers, Andrew, John or Robert, and a first cousin of Henry 1821 and Magdalene? I think given the scarcity of Millie's generally, and in Ireland in particular, these Irish Millie's of Scottish descent must be connected, and H.T.B. and H.H. were cousins, sharing common grandparents in either Thomas Millie and his wife ??, or in Henry Millie and Magdalene Rumgay. The common names, Henry, Henrietta, Robert and Thomas are all there (H.T.B also had a sister Henrietta). All were Presbyterian, indicating Scotch origin, and all came from the counties around Dublin.
If I were a betting man, that's where I would put my money.

Best regards
David

NOTE 2./ An Account of the Advance of the 7th Fusiliers of London by Alexander Campbell @ http://library.usask.ca/northwest/campbell/campbell.html

The 7th Fusiliers, a battalion of militia which was headquartered in London, Ontario. This unit was called into active service on April 1, 1885 and, within a week, had embarked on their journey west -- a journey made more arduous by the gaps in the railway above Lake Superior. After stops in Winnipeg and Swift Current, the 7th Fusiliers did not reach the area of the fighting until after General Middleton's forces had defeated the Métis at Batoche. The unit was one of many which served to protect the Northwest Field Force's lines of communication. The 7th Fusiliers left for their return journey to Ontario in mid-July without ever seeing combat.

NOTE 3./ This question is still UNRESOLVED: The Kilkenny reference as well as the Scott surname reference seems to indicate something more than a non relationship:

MILLIE, Jonathan Marriage
Wife: Annabella SCOTT
Marriage Date: 20 Mar 1856 Recorded in: Patricks, Kilkenny, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Husband's Father: John MILLIE
Wife's Father: George SCOTT
Source: FHL Film 101377 Dates: 1856 - 1856

NOTE 4./ North West Canada Medal (Received by both HTB Millie and George W. Jacobs)

Terms
The medal was originally approved for presentation to soldiers taking part in the suppression of the Rebellion of 1885, but only to those who served west of Port Arthur. Award of the medal was also approved for some of the volunteers who participated in key actions, including the crew of the steamer "Northcote" which was recognized for its services at the Battle of Batoche, and members of the Prince Albert Volunteers who fought at Duck Lake. A grant of 320 acres of land or scrip of $80 were also awarded to these recipients.

The North West Mounted Police (NWMP) were initially excluded from receiving the medal. Those serving in the NWMP during the Rebellion (prior to July 3, 1885) were made eligible in 1887, but were not awarded accompanying land or scrip. During the 1930's surviving NWMP veterans of the Rebellion received $300 grants in lieu of the land or scrip that originally had been denied to NWMP recipients.

Bars
Saskatchewan: Awarded to all those who took part in any or all of the main encounters during the rebellion. These took place along the Saskatchewan River at Fish Creek, Batoche, Cut Knife and Frenchman's Butte.
(Batoche): Medals have been found with an unofficial bar for the battle of Batoche.
Description
A circular, silver medal, 1.42 inches in diameter.
Obverse
A diademed and veiled effigy of the Queen Victoria, facing left, with the legend: VICTORIA REGINA ET IMPERATRIX. (Identical to the Egyptian Medal.)
Reverse
The legend: NORTH WEST / 1885 / CANADA appears in three lines within a wreath of maple leaves.
Mounting
A plain, straight, suspender is attached to the medal with a double-toe claw.
Ribbon
The slate grey (blue) ribbon is 1.25 inches wide, with crimson (0.25 inch wide) stripes, 0.125 inches from each edge.
Naming
The medal was issued to military recipients unnamed, but a considerable number were named locally. Those later awarded to the NWMP were engraved with the recipient's name prior to presentation.
Dates
The medal was authorized on 24 July 1885, for issue to military personnel on 18 September 1885. A Canadian Order-in-Council of December 13, 1996 recommended that the NWMP receive the medal. This recomendation was accepted by the British Government on February 16, 1887.
Issued
There were 5,650 medals issued (16 of them being British Officers), plus 1,753 Saskatchewan Bars. There were 920 medals authorized for issue to members of the NWMP.

NOTE 5./ 1891 East Middlesex, Ontario Canada census,
Name: Henry Millie
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Religion: Free Church
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Province: Ontario
District Number: 90
District: Middlesex East
Subdistrict: London East
Archive Roll #: T-6352
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NOTE 6./ 1901 Census District: ON MIDDLESEX (East) (#87) Subdistrict: London (City) Wards No. 3 and 4 D-5 Page 21

Family Name Sex Relationship M/S DOB Age
235 Millie Henery M Head M Sep 11 1857 43 Private
235 Millie Grace F Wife M Jun 3 1875 25
235 Millie Harry M Son S May 27 1893 7
235 Millie Ethel F Daughter S Oct 8 1894 6
235 Millie Hilda F Daughter S Jun 13 1899 2

NOTE 7./ 1911 Middlesex East, London Township, Bronghdale Village census

Name Home in 1911 (Province, District, Sub-District) Birth Birthplace Relation
Henry Millie Ontario, Middlesex East, London Township, Bronghdale Village 1858 Ireland Head
Grace Millie Ontario, Middlesex East, London Township, Bronghdale Village 1874 Ontario Wife
Henry W Millie Ontario, Middlesex East, London Township, Bronghdale Village 1891 Ontario Son
Ethel Millie Ontario, Middlesex East, London Township, Bronghdale Village 1894 Ontario Daughter
Hilda Millie Ontario, Middlesex East, London Township, Bronghdale Village 1898 Ontario Daughter
Louise Millie Ontario, Middlesex East, London Township, Bronghdale Village 1902 Ontario Daughter
Ruth Millie Ontario, Middlesex East, London Township, Bronghdale Village 1908 Ontario Daughter

NOTE 8./ HTB re-enlistment papers on 8-4-1917 show his dob to be 9-14-1862 indicating his age of 57 years 10 months according to the document. I believe this to be in error since if his what I believe to be his actual dob of 9-11-1857 was given, he would have been 62 years old and probably ineligible for military duty.

NOTE 9./ Commonwealth War Graves Commission: Casualty Details

Name: MILLIE
Initials: H T B
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment/Service: 7th Regiment
Age: 57
Date of Death: 11/06/1918
Service No: 2943
Additional information: Son of the late Robert and Isabel Millie; husband of Grace Edith Millie, of 20, Wharncliffe Rd., London, Ont.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Mil. plot. R.1. G.21.
Cemetery: LONDON (MOUNT PLEASANT) CEMETERY

NOTE 10./ Historical Perspective: The Year Was 1885
The year was 1885 and the flow of settlers to western Canada increased greatly with the completion of the Canadian Pacific Railway.

And in Canada's North-West Territories there were rumblings of a rebellion. In what is now Saskatchewan and Alberta, three groups had grievances with the Canadian government in Ottawa. The Metis, descendants of fur traders and indigenous peoples, were concerned about legal claim to their land; white settlers were waiting for official property titles necessary to secure loans and felt their interests weren't represented; and the starving First Nations peoples who had been promised farming equipment and aid were angry that treaties weren't being observed.

The rebellion, which would only last for two months, was led by Louis Riel, a Metis who had fought for the rights of Manitoba residents during the Red River uprising in 1869-70. He formed a provisional government and armed forces. These forces clashed with government troops at Duck Lake and although the Metis claimed this first victory, the rebellion was subdued by the end of May, and Louis Riel was arrested and hung for treason.

In the United States, anti-Chinese sentiment was on the rise following the California gold rush, which had brought more than 100,000 Chinese to American shores. In September of 1885, violence erupted. In a Union Pacific Coal Mine in Rock Springs, Wyoming, there was a dispute over who had the right to work in a particularly rich area of the mine. Paid by the ton, white workers rioted, burning the Chinese quarter of town, and killing twenty-eight Chinese miners. The perpetrators were never prosecuted and Army troops had to be called in to protect those Chinese who wished to return to their homes.

In Chicago, Sarah E. Goode, a former slave, became the first African American woman to be awarded a patent from the U.S. government for her design of a “cabinet bed.” Her invention could be used as a cabinet by day, but opened into a bed for sleeping.

In June of 1885 the U.S. received a package--actually two hundred and fourteen packages. In them was the Statue of Liberty, waiting to be assembled on Bedloe’s Island. The statue would be unveiled in late October of 1886.

Great strides were made in the field of medicine in 1885, when Louis Pasteur successfully treated Joseph Meister for rabies with his new vaccine.

Henry married Grace Edith MELMER on 04 Jul 1892 in London, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada. Grace (daughter of William MELMER and Louisa LAVINE) was born on 03 Jun 1874 in Ottawa, Carlton, Ontario, Canada; died on 27 Oct 1937 in Mt Morris, Michigan; was buried on 30 Oct 1937 in Mt Pleasant, Lot 594, Section Ta, London, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]